This should be fun...Firstly I'd like to give a message to the so-called "atheist buses" and it is as follows: You seem to have mistaken "atheist" with "arsehole" you see having a sign saying there is no god on the side of a bus parading around town, particularly outside a church during memorial Sunday, that's not spreading a message, that's being a dick! Some people believe there is a god who loves them unconditionally, so perhaps the same thing should be done on other buses for atheists, a personalised message saying that your wife doesn't really love you perhaps?
Can I just say something? Science will never disprove religion this is for a very simple reason; religion couldn't give a care to proof, you can't fight a belief with proof, it doesn't work like that, if it was proof based then it wouldn't be a belief it would be a fact.
Perhaps I can use a easy to understand simile of fire fighting. If you want to put out a small fire then reaching for the kettle and emptying it over the fire will usually give good results, the water will put out the fire and everyone will be happy. However if you do that to a burning chip pan then the oil will float over the water and use it to spread over the kitchen then burn down your house.
So science is a normal fire, if you use the water of proof against a scientific theory then you can put it out, indeed a good scientist will be happy that you disproved their theory, as it means humanity is that little bit more knowledgeable. However if you try and put out the fire of religion with the water of proof then your just going to be stirring up the flames and risking getting burnt and for what reason? Religious people are happy with their religion and most are moderate and considered people sure there are the extremists, but its not as if there are no atheists who go around murdering, regardless of their beliefs some people are simply dangerous.
In some ways I wish I had faith, I love science, I find it fascinating to work out how the universe works, what makes a person a person rather than just a pile of atoms and molecules, how you can tell the difference between a pool of randomised chemical reactions and a pool filled with simple lifeforms. But I can only imagine how much more fascinating I would find it if I had a belief in an all knowing god who created everything, I wouldn't just be studying how the universe works, I'd be studying how god works! I'd be gaining knowledge in how an immortal and incorporeal entity creates an infinite universe of such great variety from just 94 minuscule building blocks (the naturally occurring elements).
I'm going to keep studying science and I'll continue being an atheist, because I don't believe in god and there isn't proof to force me to acknowledge that there is a god. But for those who do believe, know that I have the utmost respect of your beliefs and I will never be using my knowledge of the intimate workings of the universe in an attempt to undermine your belief system
We live in a wonderful and incredible world, the very fact that we are alive and able to communicate between continents just by me pressing a few buttons on an electronic device the size of a large book is surreal. Why does there have to be this fight between people on how we came to be here, instead lets simply enjoy being here, right now, in this moment. Free and happy, by gods hands or not, it's a beautiful world, now go out and enjoy it!
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Then I suppose the argument should also be made for dear ol' evangelists to stop trying to force their religion down my throat also. Can't say as I've ever had even the inkling of desire to argue religion or atheism with people (cos I simply don't care) but I think evangelists on all sides ought to just let it be.
Course then people whose religion heavily emphasizes "preaching to the non-believers" would have an issue with that. Perhaps it's a regional/national thing, but there's a whole lot of that over here anyway.
Well said, Lienna.
Personally, I am a foaming-at-the-mouth atheist. Always have been, yet at your age I tended to be much more vocal about it. These days, I just do the "ribs" check. You know we have the same number, yes? If there is agreement, I move along.
I admire the insight and intellectual/emotional maturity you have at your age. It is refreshing, keep it up! :)
And? Completely off topic, but how can I subscribe to your comments without having to subscribe to each post individually?
In england, or at least the parts of southern england I've lived in, there's never been a huge thing about trying to spread religion, theres the occasional person handing out pamphlets in town or inviting you to a church. I've only once had the door-to-door "can we talk to you about god?" style come by my house, and my house is 10 min walk from 2 churches depending which way you head.
Although I do find them annoying, and there are certainly other bad parts to religion, its usually not the religion's fault, its the person who is doing it who is responsable for being annoying.
Oh and I did a quick check on blogger help, seems you can only subscrive on a per-post basis, so hit the checkbox before a comment, I'll have a more detailed look thoghg because I get every comment so I guess its possible if I knew how to code for it.
Trixie: theres an option to do it under blog admit, I can add up to 9 more people, if you send me an e-mail with the account you want the comments to be sent to then I'll set it up for you!
Same for anyone else who wants to be globally subscribed to comments!
It is very refreshing to hear someone with a more scientific outlook on "religion" to be open-minded enough to acknowledge the religious outlook as different but potentially valid (or at least not in-valid).
All too often I hear "I'm an Athiest, so STFU about all that God crap". It's either the "fundamentalist Athiests" or those who don't bother discussing the topic at all.
I'm one of those types of people that love a good intellectual debate, even if I don't personally beleive a topic, it's neat to try to shift your perspective to see the other side rationally, just to flex the brain.
While I understand your point, the reason most of the scientists I know fight religion is because there are religious groups that are activly affecting the funding and research of the scientific community, which in turn affects medical advancments and the ability to actualy help people.
Yes, there are groups which actively affect the funding of science, especially in morally grey areas.
However this is just protesting, you get protests against all sorts of things for myriads of reasons, the protests group stands up to what they believe in. But protests grops are powerless without the government agreeing with them and causing the change.
Now should governments listen to religion? That is a very weighted question, especially since there is no religious text that mentions stem-cells etc, however recent events in the UK (cannibis was recently reclassified to be a worse offence, agaisnt scientific proof which shows it as being less harmful than alchohol and tobaco smoking) show that government won't bow down and listen to science all the times.
The big problem with governments making the right choice comes from uneducated people (and considering the specifity of the subjects a good 90-95% are uneducated in that area, a physicist has no real knowledge of legal juristriction) being able to vote and complain about what is going on, sometimes a government has to make the bad choice to stay popular.
I'd better stop before this becomes another rant, anyway I'm running late, so type to you later!
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